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lou: not according to nancy pelosi. i don't know if you saw. we reported up the p. >> i didn't. lou: the minority leader actually said, you cann cut your way to deficit reduction. i mean, this isthe kind of mentality that speaker boehner must confront and deal with. one would think that wold be a winner for him, but apparently not. >> i'm saying i am puzzled by the fact that he does not emphasize that much more andd3 really say, i'm not oing to talk but taxes. taxes is not on the table until the president comes forward with the plan on entitlements. lou: you are a formidable gotiator in your own right, experience, and i just want to ask you. why would anyone who is the leader of the republican party, frankly in a position, not insist uponealing with te president o has the superior power, the superior position and advantage,ot insist that any negotiation be at a specific table with specific parameters and in the -- end this nonsen that is at the periphery in permeate -- permeating th media >> that's right. well, the president, and this is one of the reasons why the president may
lou: not according to nancy pelosi. i don't know if you saw. we reported up the p. >> i didn't. lou: the minority leader actually said, you cann cut your way to deficit reduction. i mean, this isthe kind of mentality that speaker boehner must confront and deal with. one would think that wold be a winner for him, but apparently not. >> i'm saying i am puzzled by the fact that he does not emphasize that much more andd3 really say, i'm not oing to talk but taxes. taxes is not on the...
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we are reaching a dangerous, dangerous to pinpoint in this country, and we have nancy pelosi, the minority leader saying that you cannot cut your way to deficit reduction. mind-boggling. >> it is mind-boggling. after the second world war we cut our government spending by 60 percent. the economy boomed. we cut ourselves all the way into a big srplus. israel was in a catastrophic crisis in the mid 80's. it cut its way drastically to a surplus. lou: this country has long history. >> a new zealand. lou: this country, if we can be parochl allotted for a moment, we can learn from our own experience. it is pretty clear that when we talk about, as this administration has, returnng to a clintonnera tax rates, it would be a wonderful boon if we were to be able to also return to the balanced budgets of the clinton years, if we could return to the trillion dollar peace dividend that the bush years left on the doorstep of the clinton years. but none of that is ever examined. also, we also are the beneficiaries of a massive technology bubble and the markets. >> plants and reduced the capital gains tax b
we are reaching a dangerous, dangerous to pinpoint in this country, and we have nancy pelosi, the minority leader saying that you cannot cut your way to deficit reduction. mind-boggling. >> it is mind-boggling. after the second world war we cut our government spending by 60 percent. the economy boomed. we cut ourselves all the way into a big srplus. israel was in a catastrophic crisis in the mid 80's. it cut its way drastically to a surplus. lou: this country has long history. >> a...
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democrats counter what we heard from nancy pelosi. democrats agreed to over a trillion dollars in cuts as part of the budget control act in 2011. indeed hear is the document. letter from cbo to spiker boehner laying out $915 billion in cuts between 2012 and to 21. the brookings institution it is a fact, she says pelosi was right. listen up. >> there are two different conversation going on about these numbers. one is about the cuts that are already embedded in law which is evidently what nancy pelosi was talking about and they are absolutely embedded in law and there is no question about them. >> reporter: but not so fast. keep in mind that these numbers were derived from baseline budgeting that is a washington gimmick that no family balancing its checkbook could ever get away with. baseline budgeting assumes that spending will rise each year and based outlays on accepted rise. >> over the past couple of years especially as part of the debt limit negotiations they pretended to cut spending using the washington definition, meaning spend
democrats counter what we heard from nancy pelosi. democrats agreed to over a trillion dollars in cuts as part of the budget control act in 2011. indeed hear is the document. letter from cbo to spiker boehner laying out $915 billion in cuts between 2012 and to 21. the brookings institution it is a fact, she says pelosi was right. listen up. >> there are two different conversation going on about these numbers. one is about the cuts that are already embedded in law which is evidently what...
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alisyn: i mean, you know, nancy pelosi's taken a lot of heat for that famous saying, you have to pass the bill to figure out what's in the bill. but now that seems haunting, because the fact that even senators now are saying, whoa, whoa, whoa, slow down, we want some of these things repealed. >> 17 democrats in the senate including senator-elect elizabeth warren from massachusetts. 17 democrats in the senate with three weeks to go before this tax is imposed suddenly realize this is going to cost a lot of money, it's going to hurt my voter, it's going to hurt the device industry. please delay it. all of a sudden. alisyn: maybe they should have read it. >> but it was very long. alisyn: it was long. [laughter] you've got that right. stu varney, thanks so much for parsing all of this. >>> meanwhile, a violent political power struggle on the streets of one major u.s. ally, but as both sides protest in egypt, there's also a push to legitimize some hard-line islamist groups. so in three minutes we'll check in for a live report from the heart of the crisis. >>> and as police prepare for some
alisyn: i mean, you know, nancy pelosi's taken a lot of heat for that famous saying, you have to pass the bill to figure out what's in the bill. but now that seems haunting, because the fact that even senators now are saying, whoa, whoa, whoa, slow down, we want some of these things repealed. >> 17 democrats in the senate including senator-elect elizabeth warren from massachusetts. 17 democrats in the senate with three weeks to go before this tax is imposed suddenly realize this is going...
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. >> if you look at the accounts of the negotiations of 2011 when you had boehner, mcconnell, nancy pelosi all in one ba bainer and the president who were on the phone meeting privately. they could go fwook their constituents and boehner could go to eric cantor and see what kind of deal they could get. but that was the dynamic that came the closest. >> they didn't have control of their parties basically right? does john boehner have more control? >> they think obama can get anything through the house of representatives. but everything that has happened since the election all of the moves in the republican caucus have been about boehner consolidating control over that tea party caucus that didn't allow boehner to get a deal in 2011. >> there will be some criticism about it being two people at the table. will they get a deal done? >> i think there's some criticism from republicans about secret negotiations. i hate to break to to people in washington, but all negotiations over policy are secret in washington. that's how legislation gets done. you have to be in a room with negotiators to cut a
. >> if you look at the accounts of the negotiations of 2011 when you had boehner, mcconnell, nancy pelosi all in one ba bainer and the president who were on the phone meeting privately. they could go fwook their constituents and boehner could go to eric cantor and see what kind of deal they could get. but that was the dynamic that came the closest. >> they didn't have control of their parties basically right? does john boehner have more control? >> they think obama can get...